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Witching in the 21st Century with the Bell Witch Podcast

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A dark figure outside a woodland ritual is identified as werewolf energy.
Julia Anchorhaven opens the conversation with Swales, the friendly green witch and host of the Bell Witch Podcast. They catch up in a way that feels easy and familiar. The talk begins just after Samhain, with both of them comparing what the season actually looks like inside a busy household. Swales says Halloween is mostly for the little witchlings these days, with decorating, outings, and cauldrons full of sweeties doing most of the work. Julia says her own energy has been pulled into parenting and festival organizing. That leads into the Wirral Pathways Festival, a pagan event that took over Julia's recent week. Julia also mentions buying Dragon's Blood ink, which adds a small but memorable side note. The conversation then turns toward the Three Ravens podcast and the friendship between the shows. Julia speaks warmly about their folklore storytelling and their episode on Mother Shipton and her cave. From there the chat shifts to the witchcraft museum down south. Swales says she finally went this summer for the first time ever and found it incredible. Julia asks what stood out most. The answer comes quickly: the exhibition on curses. Swales describes the history display and then lands on the Hitler pin cushion, a wartime Britain morale object that invited pins into Hitler's face. The point is not treated as a joke from the outside. It is treated as an example of how ordinary people were already doing witchcraft without calling it that. That line of thought opens into poppets. Julia remembers having some made for her shop. One design arrived with a noose around its neck, which she took off immediately. She explains that what she really wanted was something that was not really human-shaped, with a little pocket for herbs or a crystal, so it could be used for healing. The exchange stays casual, but it is full of small details about intent and use. The host and guest keep affirming each other with easy little reactions. That tone matters because it keeps the whole discussion intimate rather than explanatory. Later they pivot to the green man, a topic Julia admits she has had a fear of, and then to a Sasquatch story that connects the idea to something else entirely. Swales hints that the green man episode is one of her most popular, and Julia says she needs to overhaul her Spotify. The back-and-forth never turns formal. It stays a soft, open conversation among people who share the same folklore vocabulary and are happy to follow where it goes. The episode closes with thanks and warmth, leaving the sense that this is one stop in a longer, ongoing thread of witchy talk.

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Warm, loose, and full of folklore, festivals, and practical magic.

Julia Anchorhaven and Swales keep things loose and friendly here, moving from Samhain and a pagan festival on the Wirral to a witchcraft museum, curses, poppets, and the everyday side of folk magic.

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