Ghislaine Maxwell interview - July 24-25, 2025 (Day 1. Part 2.)

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Maxwell says Epstein's mother Paula became a surrogate mother after a 2004 or 2005 car crash.

July 24 begins formally. Assistant Special Agent in Charge Spencer Horn gives the recording details, including the 10:12 a.m. start, before Todd Blanch puts the room on the record. The names come first: Diego Pistana, Mark Beard, David Oscar Marcus, Thea Sapien, Melissa Magidon, and Ghislaine Maxwell. Blanch notes that he introduced himself before the recording, then settles into questioning with everyone accounted for. Memory is the hard part here. Maxwell keeps separating what she remembers from what she is not sure about, with corrections along the way. Her father becomes an early detour. She describes him as protective after prior events and says he tried to check whether someone around her was safe. Blanch slows that down, accepts the explanation, then steers the testimony back to the 1990s and Epstein. Maxwell says she slept with Epstein one time in 1992 and, given her background, read that as dating. Then she tightens the answer. She says they did not sleep together again for a significant period, though she cannot pin down the gap. Housing comes next. Maxwell says Epstein asked her to find a New York rental for him. Later, around 2004 or possibly 2005, she says Epstein asked for help after his mother's serious health decline. That help meant doctors, clothing, and cleaning while his mother lived in a retirement establishment outside West Palm Beach. The segment ends simply: counsel raises the time, Blanch agrees to break, and the recording stops at 10:56.

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Names, dates, and a proffer agreement frame a careful morning of questions about Epstein, a New York house, and Maxwell's 1992 account.

The episode opens with the July 24 interview in a room that puts every name on the record, notes the proffer agreement, and settles into questions about Epstein, a New York house, and Maxwell's account of 1992.

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For when you want the names on the record, the carefully checked timeline, and the awkward pauses.

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