IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson · Higher Ground
Surrender to the Process with Jon Batiste and Suleika Jaouad
January 28, 2026·1 hr 6 min·6 clips
Suleika Jaouad explains how switching from a to-do list to a 'to-feel list' transformed her approach to daily self-care.
As heard by us
A warm, reflective conversation about art, love, and staying true to the work.
Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson keep things relaxed and easygoing while they introduce John Batiste and Suleika Jaouad, whose relationship and work sit at the center of the conversation.
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You want a conversation that turns creative process into something human and plainspoken.
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