The Masculine Wilderness Podcast · Epik Project

Why Listening Might Be the Most Radical Skill of Our Time with Jenni Lippold

·1 hr 3 min·4 clips
Right around minute 42 or 43 - I don't know why that's the special juice - but that's when people say things like 'I feel like I have a new sister.'
Tom Perez interviews Jenny Lippold about StoryCorps' One Small Step program, which pairs political opposites for 50-minute guided conversations using a technology platform. With data from over 12,000 participants, the program demonstrates that empathy can be rebuilt across the political divide, with high-80s percent of participants requesting follow-up conversations and an AI toxicity filter triggered only twice in warranted cases.

As heard by us

Listening is treated here as a practiced skill, not a soft ideal.

Tom Perez uses this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast to treat listening across difference as a practiced habit, especially once a conversation starts to heat up.

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Why you'd press play

When you want a way into hard conversations without turning them into a fight.

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