Next Economy Now: For the Benefit of All Life

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Regenerative business without the shortcut thinking.

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Next Economy Now is a business podcast about replacing business-as-usual habits with practical regenerative models. Recent conversations move from hemp textiles and reusable packaging to worker ownership, climate timelines, and the daily work of building organizations that match stated values.

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About Next Economy Now: For the Benefit of All Life

Next Economy Now is an editorially serious business podcast about economic transition. Its center of gravity is not market disruption for its own sake, but the slower work of making enterprises, communities, and supply chains answer to ecological and social values. Recent episodes show that range clearly. A conversation with Brianna Kilcullen looks at textiles through farmers, factory workers, hemp, apparel production, and the consumer’s distance from where clothing is made. The show uses that distance as a business question. What would it take for a product to support a healthier supply chain instead of hiding the cost of production? Another episode with Tom Szaky turns from recycling to the deeper problem of disposability. The argument is practical rather than purist: reuse has to address convenience and affordability, because those are the reasons people keep choosing throwaway systems. That kind of tension gives the show its texture. It wants transformation, but it also respects the messy steps that make transformation possible. In the conversation with Kevin Bayuk, the frame widens to theory of change, climate anxiety, worker ownership, values-based invoicing, and the long memory of the podcast itself. The language can be movement-oriented, with phrases like regenerative, bioregional, equitable, democratic, and whole systems appearing as guiding commitments. Still, the best moments are grounded. Farms, packaging, socks, shoes, climate impacts, learning cohorts, and local communities keep the ideas from floating away. The tone is warm, earnest, and deliberate. It is built for listeners who want business to be accountable to life beyond quarterly performance. It also suits entrepreneurs, artists, community leaders, and other listeners already asking how values move from mission statements into operating models. There is urgency here, especially around climate and business-as-usual systems. There is also patience. Next Economy Now argues, implicitly and repeatedly, that a different economy is not a branding exercise. It is a set of choices, relationships, and structures that have to be practiced in public.

Made for: For entrepreneurs, artists, community leaders, values-driven operators, and curious listeners who want business conversations grounded in ecology, equity, ownership, and practical systems change.

What sets it apart: The show connects broad economic theory to tangible operating questions: who farms, who makes, who owns, what gets reused, and how local communities move from values to action.

In their own words

Next Economy Now highlights the leaders that are taking a regenerative, bio-regional, democratic, equitable, racially-just, and whole-systems approach to creating the new economy. Popular guests include Vincent Stanley (Patagonia), Winona LaDuke (White Earth Reservation), Frederic Laloux (Reinventing Organizations), Autumn Brown (AORTA), Kate Raworth (Doughnut Economics), and Aaron Tanaka (Center for Economic Democracy). Learn more at www.lifteconomy.com

regenerative economycircular packaging and reusesustainable textilesworker ownershipclimate change responsevalues-based business designlocal community transformationsupply chain accountability

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  1. 1

    Aaron Goggans: Collective Liberation in Action

    ·57m
  2. 2

    Rebuilding Healthcare for the Benefit of All (w/ Dave Chase)

    ·1h 2m
  3. 3

    Rethinking Waste in a Circular Economy (w/Tom Szaky)

    ·39m
  4. 4

    Degrowth, Disaster Justice, and Building a Post-Growth Society with Feroz Khan

    ·59m
  5. 5

    Mission-Driven Banking and Systems Change (w/ Francis Janes)

    ·29m
  6. 6

    Raising Collaborative Children in a Fragmented Economy (w/ Dr. Lucía Alcalá)

    ·48m
  7. 7

    Earth, War, and the Path Toward Regeneration (w/ Zainab Salbi)

    ·36m
  8. 8

    Natalie Foster: Fighting for America’s Next Economy by Raising the Floor for Everyone

    ·31m
  9. 9

    (Rebroadcast) Tao Orion: A Vision for Redesigning Our Engagement with the World

    ·49m
  10. 10

    (Rebroadcast) Autumn Brown: The Solidarity Economy

    ·49m
  11. 11

    Introduction to Beyond the B

    ·36m
  12. 12

    Building a Liberation Economy (w/ Solana Rice & Jeremie Greer)

    ·52m
  13. 13

    Choosing Home in a Time of Displacement (w/ Fabiola Santiago)

    ·42m
  14. 14

    Science, Spirit, and the Future of Healing (w/ Dr. Shamini Jain)

    ·49m
  15. 15

    Restorative Justice and the Work of Repair (w/ Tatiana Chaterji)

    ·53m
  16. 16

    Reclaiming Ancestral Medicine for a Regenerative Future (w/ Laura Ash)

    ·46m
  17. 17

    Building Climate Resilience Through Lo-TEK (w/ Julia Watson)

    ·1h 7m
  18. 18

    Freedom Practice in an Unfree World (w/ Autumn Brown)

    ·1h 13m
  19. 19

    Intentional Living and the Future of Tiny Housing (With Jewel Pearson)

    ·39m
  20. 20

    A Journey to Personal Liberation (with Christine Platt)

    ·1h 5m
  21. 21

    Rethinking Home and Belonging Through Intentional Community (with Cynthia Tina)

    ·46m
  22. 22

    Next Economy Living: Cultivating Consciousness, One Choice at a Time (with Farai Harreld)

    ·29m
  23. 23

    A Theory of Change: Closing the Skills Gap for the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)

    ·43m
  24. 24

    Nature as the Foundation of the Global Economy (with Alexa Firmenich)

    ·47m
  25. 25

    How to Transition to Shared Ownership (with Jason Wiener)

    ·1h 14m
  26. 26

    Patagonia's "Tools to Save Our Home Planet" (w/ Nick Mucha)

    ·39m
  27. 27

    Reshaping Work and Life Through Co-Operative Models (with John Abrams)

    ·35m
  28. 28

    Conflict as a Catalyst for Organizational Growth (with Simon Mont)

    ·58m
  29. 29

    Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Kevin Bayuk on B Corps

    ·57m
  30. 30

    Emily Musil: Leveraging the Power of Philanthropic Capital

    ·41m
  31. 31

    Liza Mueller: Building an Irresistible Future for Social Innovation

    ·43m
  32. 32

    Thomas Hübl: Healing Collective Trauma

    ·47m
  33. 33

    Meklit Hadero: How Solidarity Economies Can Reshape the Music Industry

    ·46m
  34. 34

    Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Cancel Culture in Climate with Jenny Morgan

    ·49m
  35. 35

    Janelle Orsi: What if No One Could Save Money?

    ·43m
  36. 36

    Tameka Peoples: Creating Partnerships to Move Your Business Forward

    ·42m
  37. 37

    Building a More Sustainable Textile Industry (w/ Brianna Kilcullen)

    ·26m
  38. 38

    Kristy Drutman: Climate Change in the Digital Age

    ·36m
  39. 39

    Matt Stinchcomb: From Rockstar to Climate Advocate

    ·38m
  40. 40

    Kevin Bayuk and Erin Axelrod: Next Economy Living

    ·53m
  41. 41

    Michael Kramer: The Power of Sustainable Finance and Purpose-Driven Ownership

    ·41m
  42. 42

    Nairuti Shastry and Zac Chapman: In Pursuit of More Just Economic Futures

    ·59m
  43. 43

    Dr. Richard Schwartz: Internal Family Systems (IFS) and The Next Economy

    ·1h 6m
  44. 44

    Jasmine Rashid: The Financial Activist Playbook

    ·48m
  45. 45

    Iris Brilliant: Rethinking Wealth and Community (Rebroadcast)

    ·34m
  46. 46

    Nwamaka Agbo: Redistributing Wealth and Power (Rebroadcast)

    ·44m
  47. 47

    Resmaa Menakem: Racialized Trauma (Rebroadcast)

    ·44m
  48. 48

    Tamira Cousett: Reconnecting with the Wisdom of Our Ancestors (Rebroadcast)

    ·45m
  49. 49

    Heather Fleming: Using Human-Centered Design to Serve Native Communities (Rebroadcast)

    ·43m
  50. 50

    (Rebroadcast) Cheryl Whilby: Soul Fire Farm and Creating Regenerative Food Systems

    ·41m
  51. 51

    (Rebroadcast) Ian McSweeney and Eliza Spellman Taylor: Changing the Way We Think About Farmland and Food Systems

    ·36m
  52. 52

    (Rebroadcast) David Holmgren: RetroSuburbia – The Downshifter's Guide to a Resilient Future

    ·1h 30m
  53. 53

    (Rebroadcast) Bayo Akomolafe: The Consequences of Anthropocentrism

    ·34m
  54. 54

    Dana Brown: The Next System of Healthcare

    ·52m
  55. 55

    Chris Marquis: A New Regenerative Paradigm for Tomorrow’s Economy

    ·42m
  56. 56

    (Rebroadcast) Edgar Villanueva: Healing Our Collective Trauma Around Money

    ·45m
  57. 57

    Rebroadcast: Resmaa Menakem: We Will Never Go Back to “Normal”

    ·44m
  58. 58

    Sibley Simon - Affordable Housing for the Future

    ·46m
  59. 59

    John Fullerton: Collaboration and The Regenerative Economy Movement

    ·43m
  60. 60

    Kevin Eppler: Finding Meaning, Connection, Direction, and Purpose as Allies

    ·53m
  61. 61

    Marjorie Kelly: Imagining the Next System of Capital

    ·49m
  62. 62

    Garrett Bucks: The Right Kind of White

    ·47m
  63. 63

    Hugues Sygney Jr.: Businesses for Change

    ·45m
  64. 64

    Denise Hearn: Embodied Economics, Antitrust, and Changing the Profit Paradigm

    ·40m
  65. 65

    Andrew Gibbons: Tools For Self-Connection

    ·56m
  66. 66

    Lama Rod Owens: Love, Activism, and Becoming a Spiritual Warrior

    ·57m
  67. 67

    Roxy Manning: The Antiracist Heart, Nonviolent Communication, and Learning to Practice Compassion

    ·44m
  68. 68

    Culture Offerings with Phoenix Soleil: The Journey to Nonviolent Communication

    ·45m
  69. 69

    Kat Taylor: Banking to Benefit the Future

    ·57m
  70. 70

    Clay Brown: Transforming the Global Economy to Benefit All People, Communities, and the Planet

    ·47m
  71. 71

    Shari Davis: The Participatory Budgeting Project

    ·46m
  72. 72

    (Rebroadcast) Michael Newton: The Repeating Structures of Empire

    ·52m
  73. 73

    (Rebroadcast) Zoe Spencer: Critical Race Theory, the Law of Ma’at, and Co-Creating a More Equitable Future

    ·47m
  74. 74

    (Rebroadcast) Ben Cohen: Co-Founder of Ben & Jerry’s on Business Done Differently

    ·40m
  75. 75

    Ed Mitzen: Rebuilding Left-Behind Communities

    ·34m
  76. 76

    (Rebroadcast) adrienne maree brown: Grief, Future Visioning, and Why People Doing Movement Work Should Write More Fiction

    ·33m
  77. 77

    Vivek George: Building Sustainability With Co-Ops

    ·34m
  78. 78

    Joshua Prieto: Impact Entrepreneurs Building Regenerative Economies

    ·35m
  79. 79

    Maryam Ahmed: DEI in Food and Wine

    ·43m
  80. 80

    Jakada Imani: Management in a Changing World

    ·46m
  81. 81

    Bernard Harcourt: Coöperism: A Positive Vision for Addressing Urgent Challenges

    ·1h 1m
  82. 82

    Paul Zelizer: Opportunity and Impact

    ·47m
  83. 83

    Aseem Das and Janae Lloyd: How World Centric Serves People and Planet

    ·46m
  84. 84

    Ron Carucci: White Men for Racial Justice

    ·43m
  85. 85

    Garrett Neiman: Rich White Men and the Path to Equity

    ·50m
  86. 86

    Charles Conn: Unleashing The Imperfectionist Mindset

    ·45m
  87. 87

    Vincent Stanley: Rethinking Business When Traditional Capitalism No Longer Works for People or Planet

    ·43m
  88. 88

    Daniel Kurzrock: Addressing the Food Waste Crisis Through Upcycling

    ·43m
  89. 89

    Lisa Kleissner: Reverse-Engineering Economic Resilience

    ·51m
  90. 90

    Next Economy Living: Katy Bowman on Finding Ways to Move More

    ·48m
  91. 91

    Christine Platt: The ‘Less is Liberation’ Movement

    ·45m
  92. 92

    Next Economy Living: Cheryl Whilby on Soul Fire Farm and Creating Regenerative Food Systems

    ·41m
  93. 93

    Next Economy Living: Vincent Medina & Louis Trevino on Reviving & Strengthening Indigenous Foods of SF Bay Area

    ·48m
  94. 94

    MBA Series Ep. 25: Next Steps for the Next Economy

    ·1h 1m
  95. 95

    MBA Series Ep. 24: Transforming Capitalism & The LIFT Story

    ·1h 2m
  96. 96

    Ana Martina and Daniella Preisler: Democratizing the Workplace

    ·40m
  97. 97

    MBA Series Ep. 22: Marketing II - Branding and Sales Systems

    ·58m
  98. 98

    Mike Strode: Time Banking and its Importance in the Solidarity Economy Space

    ·40m
  99. 99

    ​​Alli Myatt: The Equity Practice and Bringing Humanity Back Into the Workplace

    ·45m
  100. 100

    A Theory of Change: Showcasing What’s Possible in the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)

    Ryan Hunneman and Kevin Bayuk celebrate the 10th anniversary of Next Economy Now, reflecting on its origins and evolution.

    ·47m·4 clips
  101. 101

    Building a More Sustainable Textile Industry (w/ Brianna Kilcullen)

    Hidden gem

    Erin Axelrod speaks with Brianna Kilcullen, founder of Enact, about building a sustainable towel brand around hemp, supply-chain transparency, and regenerative business design.

    Apr 7, 2026·26m·1 clip
  102. 102

    Rebuilding Healthcare for the Benefit of All (w/ Dave Chase)

    Mar 24, 2026·1h 2m
  103. 103

    Rethinking Waste in a Circular Economy (w/Tom Szaky)

    Hidden gem

    Tom Szaky says TerraCycle only tackles waste streams that are "not profitable to recycle."

    Mar 10, 2026·39m·2 clips
  104. 104

    Degrowth, Disaster Justice, and Building a Post-Growth Society with Feroz Khan

    Feb 24, 2026·59m
  105. 105

    Mission-Driven Banking and Systems Change (w/ Francis Janes)

    Feb 10, 2026·29m
  106. 106

    Raising Collaborative Children in a Fragmented Economy (w/ Dr. Lucía Alcalá)

    Jan 27, 2026·48m
  107. 107

    Earth, War, and the Path Toward Regeneration (w/ Zainab Salbi)

    Jan 13, 2026·36m
  108. 108

    Building a Liberation Economy (w/ Solana Rice & Jeremie Greer)

    Dec 30, 2025·52m
  109. 109

    Choosing Home in a Time of Displacement (w/ Fabiola Santiago)

    Hidden gem

    Fabiola Santiago, founder of Mi Oaxaca, describes home through her experience as a formerly undocumented person, a diasporic Zapotec from Santiago Matatlán, and a mother raising a child in California.

    Dec 16, 2025·42m·2 clips
  110. 110

    Science, Spirit, and the Future of Healing (w/ Dr. Shamini Jain)

    Dec 2, 2025·49m
  111. 111

    Restorative Justice and the Work of Repair (w/ Tatiana Chaterji)

    Nov 18, 2025·53m
  112. 112

    Reclaiming Ancestral Medicine for a Regenerative Future (w/ Laura Ash)

    Laura Ash tells Sean Berry how recurring childhood pneumonia, a $6 aromatherapy book, and lavender led her into clinical herbal medicine and entrepreneurship.

    Nov 4, 2025·46m·4 clips
  113. 113

    Building Climate Resilience Through Lo-TEK (w/ Julia Watson)

    Hidden gem

    Julia Watson, author of Low-Tech, explains how traditional ecological knowledge can inform climate-resilient systems in conversation with Next Economy Now host Kevin Bayouk.

    Oct 21, 2025·1h 7m·4 clips
  114. 114

    Freedom Practice in an Unfree World (w/ Autumn Brown)

    Oct 7, 2025·1h 13m
  115. 115

    Intentional Living and the Future of Tiny Housing (With Jewel Pearson)

    Sep 23, 2025·39m
  116. 116

    A Journey to Personal Liberation (with Christine Platt)

    Sep 16, 2025·1h 5m
  117. 117

    Rethinking Home and Belonging Through Intentional Community (with Cynthia Tina)

    Aug 26, 2025·46m
  118. 118

    Next Economy Living: Cultivating Consciousness, One Choice at a Time (with Farai Harreld)

    Aug 12, 2025·29m
  119. 119

    A Theory of Change: Closing the Skills Gap for the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)

    Jul 29, 2025·43m
  120. 120

    Nature as the Foundation of the Global Economy (with Alexa Firmenich)

    Jul 15, 2025·47m
  121. 121

    How to Transition to Shared Ownership (with Jason Wiener)

    Jul 1, 2025·1h 14m
  122. 122

    Patagonia's "Tools to Save Our Home Planet" (w/ Nick Mucha)

    Jun 17, 2025·39m
  123. 123

    Reshaping Work and Life Through Co-Operative Models (with John Abrams)

    Jun 3, 2025·35m
  124. 124

    A Theory of Change: Showcasing What’s Possible in the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)

    This episode announces a new cohort of the Next Economy MBA and introduces a conversation about regenerative, equity-centered business principles.

    May 20, 2025·47m
  125. 125

    Conflict as a Catalyst for Organizational Growth (with Simon Mont)

    May 6, 2025·58m
  126. 126

    Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Kevin Bayuk on B Corps

    Apr 22, 2025·57m
  127. 127

    Emily Musil: Leveraging the Power of Philanthropic Capital

    Apr 8, 2025·41m
  128. 128

    Liza Mueller: Building an Irresistible Future for Social Innovation

    Mar 25, 2025·43m
  129. 129

    Thomas Hübl: Healing Collective Trauma

    Mar 11, 2025·47m
  130. 130

    Meklit Hadero: How Solidarity Economies Can Reshape the Music Industry

    Feb 18, 2025·46m
  131. 131

    Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Cancel Culture in Climate with Jenny Morgan

    Feb 4, 2025·49m
  132. 132

    Janelle Orsi: What if No One Could Save Money?

    Jan 21, 2025·43m
  133. 133

    Tameka Peoples: Creating Partnerships to Move Your Business Forward

    Jan 7, 2025·42m
  134. 134

    Aaron Goggans: Collective Liberation in Action

    Dec 17, 2024·57m
  135. 135

    Kristy Drutman: Climate Change in the Digital Age

    Dec 3, 2024·36m
  136. 136

    Matt Stinchcomb: From Rockstar to Climate Advocate

    Nov 19, 2024·38m
  137. 137

    Kevin Bayuk and Erin Axelrod: Next Economy Living

    Nov 5, 2024·53m
  138. 138

    Michael Kramer: The Power of Sustainable Finance and Purpose-Driven Ownership

    Oct 15, 2024·41m
  139. 139

    Nairuti Shastry and Zac Chapman: In Pursuit of More Just Economic Futures

    Oct 1, 2024·59m
  140. 140

    Dr. Richard Schwartz: Internal Family Systems (IFS) and The Next Economy

    Sep 24, 2024·1h 6m
  141. 141

    Jasmine Rashid: The Financial Activist Playbook

    Sep 10, 2024·48m
  142. 142

    Iris Brilliant: Rethinking Wealth and Community (Rebroadcast)

    Aug 27, 2024·34m
  143. 143

    Nwamaka Agbo: Redistributing Wealth and Power (Rebroadcast)

    Aug 20, 2024·44m
  144. 144

    Resmaa Menakem: Racialized Trauma (Rebroadcast)

    Aug 13, 2024·44m
  145. 145

    Tamira Cousett: Reconnecting with the Wisdom of Our Ancestors (Rebroadcast)

    Aug 6, 2024·45m
  146. 146

    Heather Fleming: Using Human-Centered Design to Serve Native Communities (Rebroadcast)

    Jul 30, 2024·43m
  147. 147

    (Rebroadcast) Cheryl Whilby: Soul Fire Farm and Creating Regenerative Food Systems

    Jul 23, 2024·41m
  148. 148

    (Rebroadcast) Ian McSweeney and Eliza Spellman Taylor: Changing the Way We Think About Farmland and Food Systems

    Jul 16, 2024·36m
  149. 149

    (Rebroadcast) David Holmgren: RetroSuburbia – The Downshifter's Guide to a Resilient Future

    Jul 9, 2024·1h 30m
  150. 150

    (Rebroadcast) Bayo Akomolafe: The Consequences of Anthropocentrism

    Jul 2, 2024·34m