
Next Economy Now: For the Benefit of All Life
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Regenerative business without the shortcut thinking.
The gist
Next Economy Now is a business podcast about replacing business-as-usual habits with practical regenerative models. Recent conversations move from hemp textiles and reusable packaging to worker ownership, climate timelines, and the daily work of building organizations that match stated values.
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About Next Economy Now: For the Benefit of All Life
Next Economy Now is an editorially serious business podcast about economic transition. Its center of gravity is not market disruption for its own sake, but the slower work of making enterprises, communities, and supply chains answer to ecological and social values. Recent episodes show that range clearly. A conversation with Brianna Kilcullen looks at textiles through farmers, factory workers, hemp, apparel production, and the consumer’s distance from where clothing is made. The show uses that distance as a business question. What would it take for a product to support a healthier supply chain instead of hiding the cost of production? Another episode with Tom Szaky turns from recycling to the deeper problem of disposability. The argument is practical rather than purist: reuse has to address convenience and affordability, because those are the reasons people keep choosing throwaway systems. That kind of tension gives the show its texture. It wants transformation, but it also respects the messy steps that make transformation possible. In the conversation with Kevin Bayuk, the frame widens to theory of change, climate anxiety, worker ownership, values-based invoicing, and the long memory of the podcast itself. The language can be movement-oriented, with phrases like regenerative, bioregional, equitable, democratic, and whole systems appearing as guiding commitments. Still, the best moments are grounded. Farms, packaging, socks, shoes, climate impacts, learning cohorts, and local communities keep the ideas from floating away. The tone is warm, earnest, and deliberate. It is built for listeners who want business to be accountable to life beyond quarterly performance. It also suits entrepreneurs, artists, community leaders, and other listeners already asking how values move from mission statements into operating models. There is urgency here, especially around climate and business-as-usual systems. There is also patience. Next Economy Now argues, implicitly and repeatedly, that a different economy is not a branding exercise. It is a set of choices, relationships, and structures that have to be practiced in public.
Made for: For entrepreneurs, artists, community leaders, values-driven operators, and curious listeners who want business conversations grounded in ecology, equity, ownership, and practical systems change.
What sets it apart: The show connects broad economic theory to tangible operating questions: who farms, who makes, who owns, what gets reused, and how local communities move from values to action.
In their own words
Next Economy Now highlights the leaders that are taking a regenerative, bio-regional, democratic, equitable, racially-just, and whole-systems approach to creating the new economy. Popular guests include Vincent Stanley (Patagonia), Winona LaDuke (White Earth Reservation), Frederic Laloux (Reinventing Organizations), Autumn Brown (AORTA), Kate Raworth (Doughnut Economics), and Aaron Tanaka (Center for Economic Democracy). Learn more at www.lifteconomy.com
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Episodes
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Aaron Goggans: Collective Liberation in Action
·57m - 2
Rebuilding Healthcare for the Benefit of All (w/ Dave Chase)
·1h 2m - 3
Rethinking Waste in a Circular Economy (w/Tom Szaky)
·39m - 4
Degrowth, Disaster Justice, and Building a Post-Growth Society with Feroz Khan
·59m - 5
Mission-Driven Banking and Systems Change (w/ Francis Janes)
·29m - 6
Raising Collaborative Children in a Fragmented Economy (w/ Dr. Lucía Alcalá)
·48m - 7
Earth, War, and the Path Toward Regeneration (w/ Zainab Salbi)
·36m - 8
Natalie Foster: Fighting for America’s Next Economy by Raising the Floor for Everyone
·31m - 9
(Rebroadcast) Tao Orion: A Vision for Redesigning Our Engagement with the World
·49m - 10
(Rebroadcast) Autumn Brown: The Solidarity Economy
·49m - 11
Introduction to Beyond the B
·36m - 12
Building a Liberation Economy (w/ Solana Rice & Jeremie Greer)
·52m - 13
Choosing Home in a Time of Displacement (w/ Fabiola Santiago)
·42m - 14
Science, Spirit, and the Future of Healing (w/ Dr. Shamini Jain)
·49m - 15
Restorative Justice and the Work of Repair (w/ Tatiana Chaterji)
·53m - 16
Reclaiming Ancestral Medicine for a Regenerative Future (w/ Laura Ash)
·46m - 17
Building Climate Resilience Through Lo-TEK (w/ Julia Watson)
·1h 7m - 18
Freedom Practice in an Unfree World (w/ Autumn Brown)
·1h 13m - 19
Intentional Living and the Future of Tiny Housing (With Jewel Pearson)
·39m - 20
A Journey to Personal Liberation (with Christine Platt)
·1h 5m - 21
Rethinking Home and Belonging Through Intentional Community (with Cynthia Tina)
·46m - 22
Next Economy Living: Cultivating Consciousness, One Choice at a Time (with Farai Harreld)
·29m - 23
A Theory of Change: Closing the Skills Gap for the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)
·43m - 24
Nature as the Foundation of the Global Economy (with Alexa Firmenich)
·47m - 25
How to Transition to Shared Ownership (with Jason Wiener)
·1h 14m - 26
Patagonia's "Tools to Save Our Home Planet" (w/ Nick Mucha)
·39m - 27
Reshaping Work and Life Through Co-Operative Models (with John Abrams)
·35m - 28
Conflict as a Catalyst for Organizational Growth (with Simon Mont)
·58m - 29
Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Kevin Bayuk on B Corps
·57m - 30
Emily Musil: Leveraging the Power of Philanthropic Capital
·41m - 31
Liza Mueller: Building an Irresistible Future for Social Innovation
·43m - 32
Thomas Hübl: Healing Collective Trauma
·47m - 33
Meklit Hadero: How Solidarity Economies Can Reshape the Music Industry
·46m - 34
Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Cancel Culture in Climate with Jenny Morgan
·49m - 35
Janelle Orsi: What if No One Could Save Money?
·43m - 36
Tameka Peoples: Creating Partnerships to Move Your Business Forward
·42m - 37
Building a More Sustainable Textile Industry (w/ Brianna Kilcullen)
·26m - 38
Kristy Drutman: Climate Change in the Digital Age
·36m - 39
Matt Stinchcomb: From Rockstar to Climate Advocate
·38m - 40
Kevin Bayuk and Erin Axelrod: Next Economy Living
·53m - 41
Michael Kramer: The Power of Sustainable Finance and Purpose-Driven Ownership
·41m - 42
Nairuti Shastry and Zac Chapman: In Pursuit of More Just Economic Futures
·59m - 43
Dr. Richard Schwartz: Internal Family Systems (IFS) and The Next Economy
·1h 6m - 44
Jasmine Rashid: The Financial Activist Playbook
·48m - 45
Iris Brilliant: Rethinking Wealth and Community (Rebroadcast)
·34m - 46
Nwamaka Agbo: Redistributing Wealth and Power (Rebroadcast)
·44m - 47
Resmaa Menakem: Racialized Trauma (Rebroadcast)
·44m - 48
Tamira Cousett: Reconnecting with the Wisdom of Our Ancestors (Rebroadcast)
·45m - 49
Heather Fleming: Using Human-Centered Design to Serve Native Communities (Rebroadcast)
·43m - 50
(Rebroadcast) Cheryl Whilby: Soul Fire Farm and Creating Regenerative Food Systems
·41m - 51
(Rebroadcast) Ian McSweeney and Eliza Spellman Taylor: Changing the Way We Think About Farmland and Food Systems
·36m - 52
(Rebroadcast) David Holmgren: RetroSuburbia – The Downshifter's Guide to a Resilient Future
·1h 30m - 53
(Rebroadcast) Bayo Akomolafe: The Consequences of Anthropocentrism
·34m - 54
Dana Brown: The Next System of Healthcare
·52m - 55
Chris Marquis: A New Regenerative Paradigm for Tomorrow’s Economy
·42m - 56
(Rebroadcast) Edgar Villanueva: Healing Our Collective Trauma Around Money
·45m - 57
Rebroadcast: Resmaa Menakem: We Will Never Go Back to “Normal”
·44m - 58
Sibley Simon - Affordable Housing for the Future
·46m - 59
John Fullerton: Collaboration and The Regenerative Economy Movement
·43m - 60
Kevin Eppler: Finding Meaning, Connection, Direction, and Purpose as Allies
·53m - 61
Marjorie Kelly: Imagining the Next System of Capital
·49m - 62
Garrett Bucks: The Right Kind of White
·47m - 63
Hugues Sygney Jr.: Businesses for Change
·45m - 64
Denise Hearn: Embodied Economics, Antitrust, and Changing the Profit Paradigm
·40m - 65
Andrew Gibbons: Tools For Self-Connection
·56m - 66
Lama Rod Owens: Love, Activism, and Becoming a Spiritual Warrior
·57m - 67
Roxy Manning: The Antiracist Heart, Nonviolent Communication, and Learning to Practice Compassion
·44m - 68
Culture Offerings with Phoenix Soleil: The Journey to Nonviolent Communication
·45m - 69
Kat Taylor: Banking to Benefit the Future
·57m - 70
Clay Brown: Transforming the Global Economy to Benefit All People, Communities, and the Planet
·47m - 71
Shari Davis: The Participatory Budgeting Project
·46m - 72
(Rebroadcast) Michael Newton: The Repeating Structures of Empire
·52m - 73
(Rebroadcast) Zoe Spencer: Critical Race Theory, the Law of Ma’at, and Co-Creating a More Equitable Future
·47m - 74
(Rebroadcast) Ben Cohen: Co-Founder of Ben & Jerry’s on Business Done Differently
·40m - 75
Ed Mitzen: Rebuilding Left-Behind Communities
·34m - 76
(Rebroadcast) adrienne maree brown: Grief, Future Visioning, and Why People Doing Movement Work Should Write More Fiction
·33m - 77
Vivek George: Building Sustainability With Co-Ops
·34m - 78
Joshua Prieto: Impact Entrepreneurs Building Regenerative Economies
·35m - 79
Maryam Ahmed: DEI in Food and Wine
·43m - 80
Jakada Imani: Management in a Changing World
·46m - 81
Bernard Harcourt: Coöperism: A Positive Vision for Addressing Urgent Challenges
·1h 1m - 82
Paul Zelizer: Opportunity and Impact
·47m - 83
Aseem Das and Janae Lloyd: How World Centric Serves People and Planet
·46m - 84
Ron Carucci: White Men for Racial Justice
·43m - 85
Garrett Neiman: Rich White Men and the Path to Equity
·50m - 86
Charles Conn: Unleashing The Imperfectionist Mindset
·45m - 87
Vincent Stanley: Rethinking Business When Traditional Capitalism No Longer Works for People or Planet
·43m - 88
Daniel Kurzrock: Addressing the Food Waste Crisis Through Upcycling
·43m - 89
Lisa Kleissner: Reverse-Engineering Economic Resilience
·51m - 90
Next Economy Living: Katy Bowman on Finding Ways to Move More
·48m - 91
Christine Platt: The ‘Less is Liberation’ Movement
·45m - 92
Next Economy Living: Cheryl Whilby on Soul Fire Farm and Creating Regenerative Food Systems
·41m - 93
Next Economy Living: Vincent Medina & Louis Trevino on Reviving & Strengthening Indigenous Foods of SF Bay Area
·48m - 94
MBA Series Ep. 25: Next Steps for the Next Economy
·1h 1m - 95
MBA Series Ep. 24: Transforming Capitalism & The LIFT Story
·1h 2m - 96
Ana Martina and Daniella Preisler: Democratizing the Workplace
·40m - 97
MBA Series Ep. 22: Marketing II - Branding and Sales Systems
·58m - 98
Mike Strode: Time Banking and its Importance in the Solidarity Economy Space
·40m - 99
Alli Myatt: The Equity Practice and Bringing Humanity Back Into the Workplace
·45m - 100
A Theory of Change: Showcasing What’s Possible in the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)
Ryan Hunneman and Kevin Bayuk celebrate the 10th anniversary of Next Economy Now, reflecting on its origins and evolution.
·47m·4 clips - 101
Building a More Sustainable Textile Industry (w/ Brianna Kilcullen)
Hidden gemErin Axelrod speaks with Brianna Kilcullen, founder of Enact, about building a sustainable towel brand around hemp, supply-chain transparency, and regenerative business design.
Apr 7, 2026·26m·1 clip - 102
Rebuilding Healthcare for the Benefit of All (w/ Dave Chase)
Mar 24, 2026·1h 2m - 103
Rethinking Waste in a Circular Economy (w/Tom Szaky)
Hidden gemTom Szaky says TerraCycle only tackles waste streams that are "not profitable to recycle."
Mar 10, 2026·39m·2 clips - 104
Degrowth, Disaster Justice, and Building a Post-Growth Society with Feroz Khan
Feb 24, 2026·59m - 105
Mission-Driven Banking and Systems Change (w/ Francis Janes)
Feb 10, 2026·29m - 106
Raising Collaborative Children in a Fragmented Economy (w/ Dr. Lucía Alcalá)
Jan 27, 2026·48m - 107
Earth, War, and the Path Toward Regeneration (w/ Zainab Salbi)
Jan 13, 2026·36m - 108
Building a Liberation Economy (w/ Solana Rice & Jeremie Greer)
Dec 30, 2025·52m - 109
Choosing Home in a Time of Displacement (w/ Fabiola Santiago)
Hidden gemFabiola Santiago, founder of Mi Oaxaca, describes home through her experience as a formerly undocumented person, a diasporic Zapotec from Santiago Matatlán, and a mother raising a child in California.
Dec 16, 2025·42m·2 clips - 110
Science, Spirit, and the Future of Healing (w/ Dr. Shamini Jain)
Dec 2, 2025·49m - 111
Restorative Justice and the Work of Repair (w/ Tatiana Chaterji)
Nov 18, 2025·53m - 112
Reclaiming Ancestral Medicine for a Regenerative Future (w/ Laura Ash)
Laura Ash tells Sean Berry how recurring childhood pneumonia, a $6 aromatherapy book, and lavender led her into clinical herbal medicine and entrepreneurship.
Nov 4, 2025·46m·4 clips - 113
Building Climate Resilience Through Lo-TEK (w/ Julia Watson)
Hidden gemJulia Watson, author of Low-Tech, explains how traditional ecological knowledge can inform climate-resilient systems in conversation with Next Economy Now host Kevin Bayouk.
Oct 21, 2025·1h 7m·4 clips - 114
Freedom Practice in an Unfree World (w/ Autumn Brown)
Oct 7, 2025·1h 13m - 115
Intentional Living and the Future of Tiny Housing (With Jewel Pearson)
Sep 23, 2025·39m - 116
A Journey to Personal Liberation (with Christine Platt)
Sep 16, 2025·1h 5m - 117
Rethinking Home and Belonging Through Intentional Community (with Cynthia Tina)
Aug 26, 2025·46m - 118
Next Economy Living: Cultivating Consciousness, One Choice at a Time (with Farai Harreld)
Aug 12, 2025·29m - 119
A Theory of Change: Closing the Skills Gap for the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)
Jul 29, 2025·43m - 120
Nature as the Foundation of the Global Economy (with Alexa Firmenich)
Jul 15, 2025·47m - 121
How to Transition to Shared Ownership (with Jason Wiener)
Jul 1, 2025·1h 14m - 122
Patagonia's "Tools to Save Our Home Planet" (w/ Nick Mucha)
Jun 17, 2025·39m - 123
Reshaping Work and Life Through Co-Operative Models (with John Abrams)
Jun 3, 2025·35m - 124
A Theory of Change: Showcasing What’s Possible in the Next Economy (with Kevin Bayuk)
This episode announces a new cohort of the Next Economy MBA and introduces a conversation about regenerative, equity-centered business principles.
May 20, 2025·47m - 125
Conflict as a Catalyst for Organizational Growth (with Simon Mont)
May 6, 2025·58m - 126
Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Kevin Bayuk on B Corps
Apr 22, 2025·57m - 127
Emily Musil: Leveraging the Power of Philanthropic Capital
Apr 8, 2025·41m - 128
Liza Mueller: Building an Irresistible Future for Social Innovation
Mar 25, 2025·43m - 129
Thomas Hübl: Healing Collective Trauma
Mar 11, 2025·47m - 130
Meklit Hadero: How Solidarity Economies Can Reshape the Music Industry
Feb 18, 2025·46m - 131
Beyond The B Crossover Episode: Cancel Culture in Climate with Jenny Morgan
Feb 4, 2025·49m - 132
Janelle Orsi: What if No One Could Save Money?
Jan 21, 2025·43m - 133
Tameka Peoples: Creating Partnerships to Move Your Business Forward
Jan 7, 2025·42m - 134
Aaron Goggans: Collective Liberation in Action
Dec 17, 2024·57m - 135
Kristy Drutman: Climate Change in the Digital Age
Dec 3, 2024·36m - 136
Matt Stinchcomb: From Rockstar to Climate Advocate
Nov 19, 2024·38m - 137
Kevin Bayuk and Erin Axelrod: Next Economy Living
Nov 5, 2024·53m - 138
Michael Kramer: The Power of Sustainable Finance and Purpose-Driven Ownership
Oct 15, 2024·41m - 139
Nairuti Shastry and Zac Chapman: In Pursuit of More Just Economic Futures
Oct 1, 2024·59m - 140
Dr. Richard Schwartz: Internal Family Systems (IFS) and The Next Economy
Sep 24, 2024·1h 6m - 141
Jasmine Rashid: The Financial Activist Playbook
Sep 10, 2024·48m - 142
Iris Brilliant: Rethinking Wealth and Community (Rebroadcast)
Aug 27, 2024·34m - 143
Nwamaka Agbo: Redistributing Wealth and Power (Rebroadcast)
Aug 20, 2024·44m - 144
Resmaa Menakem: Racialized Trauma (Rebroadcast)
Aug 13, 2024·44m - 145
Tamira Cousett: Reconnecting with the Wisdom of Our Ancestors (Rebroadcast)
Aug 6, 2024·45m - 146
Heather Fleming: Using Human-Centered Design to Serve Native Communities (Rebroadcast)
Jul 30, 2024·43m - 147
(Rebroadcast) Cheryl Whilby: Soul Fire Farm and Creating Regenerative Food Systems
Jul 23, 2024·41m - 148
(Rebroadcast) Ian McSweeney and Eliza Spellman Taylor: Changing the Way We Think About Farmland and Food Systems
Jul 16, 2024·36m - 149
(Rebroadcast) David Holmgren: RetroSuburbia – The Downshifter's Guide to a Resilient Future
Jul 9, 2024·1h 30m - 150
(Rebroadcast) Bayo Akomolafe: The Consequences of Anthropocentrism
Jul 2, 2024·34m